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Postby dadman » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:02 pm

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What proof and evidence can atheists provide that PROVES that atheism is accurate and correct ? ...
You see I left atheism because the lack of proof and evidence that it is accurate and correct ...
The proof and evidence is for Jesus Christ .... http://www.conservapedia.com/Christian_apologetics

http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Ath ... ite_note-1









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Atheism is an intellectual position .. What reasons do you xxxx have for holding that position ? ..
Your reasons are based upon logic and/or evidence or lack of it ..
So .. is there any reason/evidence for you holding your position that you defend ? .......
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If you say that atheism needs no evidence or reason .. then you are holding a position that has no evidence or rational basis ? .. If so .. then isn't that simply faith ?
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If you say that atheism is supported by the lack of evidence for God .. then it is only your opinion that there is no evidence ..
You cannot know all evidence for or against God .. therefore you cannot say there is no evidence for God ..
Your atheism then .. is nothing more than an opinion ..
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But .. if it is .. should you derogatorily argue against Christians and in favor of your opinion ?
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If you say that atheism needs no evidence to support it because it is a position about the lack of something .. then do you have other positions you hold based upon lack of evidence .. like say .. screaming blue ants or leprechauns ? .. Do you hold the position that they do not exist or that you lack belief in them .. too ?
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People behave according to what they believe .. not what they lack belief in . . . So .. if you are an atheist and you work against the idea that God exists .. then are you not behaving in a manner inconsistent with your beliefs ?
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How do you account for the laws of logic within your atheism ? .. Isn't logic a process of the mind ? .. Yes . . . Isn't logical thought based upon the laws of logic ?
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If logic is conceptual (a process of the mind) and certainly appear to be universally true .. then what are the conditions that must be in place in order for the laws of logic to be universally true so that you can cite them and use them ? ..
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or in other words .. how do the truth statements that we call the laws of logic obtain their universal nature ? .. How do you know that the laws of logic are true ? .. or Do you just assume they are true ?
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Everything that was brought into existence was caused to exist .. can you have an infinite regression of causes ? No . . . since to get to "now" you'd have to traverse an infinite amount of time to get to now .. but .. it is impossible to cross an infinite .. Furthermore ....
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without a first cause .. there cannot be a second or a third .. etc. .. So .. it seems that there must be a single uncaused cause . . . Why can't that be God who is always existed and was never caused to come into existence ? ..... and your response would be . . .




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If atheism is true: The universe has laws .. and these laws cannot be violated (vs counteracted by other laws)

Life is a product of these laws and can only exist in harmony with those laws and be governed by them .. therefore .. human thought / feelings etc .. are programmed responses to stimuli and the atheist cannot legitimately claim to have meaning in life or free will . . .

since his physical brain is nothing more than a series of chemical reactions that must always have a necessary outcome based on the physical laws of the universe ... am I not correct ? .. y/n




04 ================================================ The Universe exists
The universe exists .. Is it eternal or did it have a beginning ? .. It could not be eternal since that would mean that an infinite amount of time had to be crossed to get to the present .. But .. you cannot cross an infinite amount of time (otherwise it wouldn't be infinite) . . . Therefore .....
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The universe had a beginning .. Something cannot bring itself into existence .. Therefore .. something brought it into existence
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What brought the universe into existence ? .. It would have to be greater than the universe and be a sufficient cause to it . . . The Bible promotes this sufficient cause as God . . . What does atheism offer instead of God ? .. If nothing .. then atheism is not able to account for our own existence
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The universe cannot be infinitely old or all useable energy would have been lost already (entropy) .. This has not occurred .. Therefore .. the universe is not infinitely old . . . correct ??





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Atheism lacks the ability to account for our existence .. Where did the universe (and us) come from ? .. Atheism can only offer an impersonal cause
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But an impersonal cause that precedes the universe must have always possessed the necessary and sufficient conditions to bring the universe into existence
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If this pre-existing cause always existed .. then it always possessed these conditions .. But this necessitates an automatic generation of the universe .. because when the necessary sufficient conditions are there .. the result is automatic .. But this means the universe would have been created an infinitely long time ago
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But the universe is not infinitely old .. therefore the impersonal cause of the universe cannot be supported from the atheist perspective . . . correct ??




05 ======================================= Atheism lacks the ability to account for moral absolutes
Without moral absolutes .. all morality is subjective .. Subjective morality cannot be defended as "the right" moral system .. Therefore . . .
when atheists object to something on a moral basis ..
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they must either offer their own personal opinions (why should their opinions be the right one ?) .. or they must borrow from the Christian worldview's position on absolute right and wrong .. But .. if they offer is their moral opinion .. and why is it valid ?
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Is this a society says something is right .. then what happens when a society's opinions changes ? .. do truth values and morals change ? .. If they appeal to any absolute right or wrong at all .. there are going against their own worldview and assuming the validity of the Christian one .. Either way ..
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atheism lacks the ability to account for moral absolutes .. It can only offer moral subjectivity which is .. ultimately .. anarchy
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